40. Pulm PEEPs and ATS RCMB Assembly: Short Telomeres and Interstitial Lung Disease

This week on Pulm PEEPs we are thrilled to share a collaboration with the American Thoracic Society Assembly on Respiratory Cell & Molecular Biology. We are joined by two expert members of the ATS RCMB Assembly who have done basic and translational research in respiratory biology and lung disease. We explore the topic of Short Telomeres and their role in lung disease. With the annual ATS Conference just around the corner, this is a great intro episode for everyone from aspiring researchers and clinical pulmonologists.

Meet The Guests

Mark Snyder is an Assistant Professor of Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, and a member of the Graduate Program in Microbiology and Immunology there. He does research on the role of the adaptive immune system’s role in chronic rejection after lung transplantation and has received both a Parker B Francis Foundation award and an NIH K23 grant for this work.

Jonathan Alder is an Assistant Professor of Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh. His research focuses on telomeres and their role in human health and disease. He is an accomplished researcher, was a Parker B Francis fellow, and now has an NIH RO1 studying Telomere-mediated Lung disease.

Further Reading and References

Alder JK, Armanios M. Telomere-mediated lung disease. Physiol Rev. 2022 Oct 1;102(4):1703-1720. doi: 10.1152/physrev.00046.2021. Epub 2022 May 9. PMID: 35532056; PMCID: PMC9306791.

Alder JK, Chen JJ, Lancaster L, Danoff S, Su SC, Cogan JD, Vulto I, Xie M, Qi X, Tuder RM, Phillips JA 3rd, Lansdorp PM, Loyd JE, Armanios MY. Short telomeres are a risk factor for idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2008 Sep 2;105(35):13051-6. doi: 10.1073/pnas.0804280105. Epub 2008 Aug 27. PMID: 18753630; PMCID: PMC2529100.

Armanios MY, Chen JJ, Cogan JD, Alder JK, Ingersoll RG, Markin C, Lawson WE, Xie M, Vulto I, Phillips JA 3rd, Lansdorp PM, Greider CW, Loyd JE. Telomerase mutations in families with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. N Engl J Med. 2007 Mar 29;356(13):1317-26. doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa066157. PMID: 17392301.

39. Fellows’ Case Files: Indiana University

Join us as we head to Indiana University! Listen in as we discuss another great case and hear teaching points from our amazing guests.

Meet our Guests


Parth Savsani is currently an internal medicine resident at Indiana University School of Medicine. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and his medical degree from the University of Illinois College of Medicine. He enjoys medical education and was selected to be the VA chief resident next year.

Maria Srour is a Pulmonary and Critical Care Fellow at Indiana University School of Medicine. She completed her internal medicine residency at Saint Louis University where she was also a chief resident, and received her medical degree from IU. She works in global health to improve care for sepsis patients in low resources settings, and is currently pursuing her MPH.

Laura Hinkle is a Indiana University die hard and has been there from her since medical school through residency and fellowship, and is now an Assistant Professor of Clinical  Medicine and the Associate Program Director for the Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine Fellowship. She will be taking over as the Program Director July 1, 2023. She is a dedicated educator and is the Key Clinical Educator for Pulmonary and Critical Care, and the Director of the Clinical Transitions Curriculum.  Additionally, she is working on a Master’s Degree in Education through the University of Cincinnati. 

Case Presentation

A male in her early 60s is transferred from a neighboring facility with a 1 week history of fatigue and lethargy. Three days prior to presentation he developed dyspnea and increased weakness with a near fall at home. HIs family also reported recent fevers, chills, dyspnea, and diarrhea. On his way to seek evaluation, he developed slurred speech without any other focal abnormalities.

Additional information is summarized as below:

Follow along our episode to hear the final diagnosis and key teaching points from the case!

38. Fellows’ Case Files: Houston Methodist

Join us as we head to the Texas Medical Center and are joined by Dr. Bitar and Dr. Gotur from Houston Methodist Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine.

Meet our Guests

Dr. Mohamad Bitar is a Pulmonary and Critical Care Fellow at the Houston Methodist Pulmonary and Critical Care Program in Houston, Texas. Dr. Bitar completed his medical school at Misr University for Science and Technology and his Internal Medicine residency at Good Samaritan Hospital.

Dr. Deepa Gotur is an Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine at Weill Cornell Medical College and an Adjunct Associate professor at Texas A&M. She is also the Pulmonary and Critical Care Program Director at Houston Methodist. She is a sepsis and ARDS researcher, as well as a dedicated educator.

Case Presentation

A 40s-year-old male presents with 3 months of progressive shortness of breath. He was diagnosed with COVID and given treatment with steroids, and antibiotics with no response.

He presented to the hospital 3 months later after not being able to carry out daily activities and was found to have low oxygen saturation

Admitted, initial CT Chest – showed “Non-specific patchy ground-glass bilateral pulmonary infiltrates with Coarsened interstitial markings that could be related to COVID-19/atypical infection”

References and further reading

1. Silva, C. Isabela S. MD, PhD; Müller, Nestor L. MD, PhD. Idiopathic Interstitial Pneumonias. Journal of Thoracic Imaging 24(4):p 260-273, November 2009.

2.Gruden JF, Naidich DP, Machnicki SC, Cohen SL, Girvin F, Raoof S. An Algorithmic Approach to the Interpretation of Diffuse Lung Disease on Chest CT Imaging: A Theory of Almost Everything. Chest. 2020 Mar;157(3):612-635.

3. Ryu JH, Daniels CE, Hartman TE, Yi ES. Diagnosis of interstitial lung diseases. Mayo Clin Proc. 2007 Aug;82(8):976-86.

37. Top Consults: Approach to Parapneumonic Effusions

We continue our Top Consult Series on Pleural Disease and bring you a dedicated episode on Parapneumonic effusions. We are joined by two guest experts, Dr. David Feller-Kopman and Dr. Mihir Parikh. Listen in as we discuss the spectrum of parapneumonic effusions, including simple parapneumonic effusions, complicated parapneumonic effusions, and empyema. You will hear what to look for on imaging, what tests to send with pleural drainage as well as discuss the need for surgical consultation.

Meet our Guests

Dr. Mihir Parikh is currently an Assistant Professor of Medicine and academic interventional pulmonologist at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. He is a highly esteemed educator and has worked to incorporate simulation training to improve procedural training for trainees and is a master of pleural disease.

Dr. David Feller-Kopman is a Professor of Medicine and the Section Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Darmouth whose clinical and research expertise span the field of interventional pulmonology. Dr. Feller-Kopman is a true master of pleural disease, and has authored more than 225 peer-reviewed manuscripts and has been a leader for both ATS and CHEST committees.

36. Top Consults Series: Approach to Pleural Effusions

Today the PulmPEEPs are joined by two amazing educators as we start off our Top Consult series on Pleural Disease. Join us today as we go through cases to learn a systematic approach for evaluation and management of pleural effusions.

Meet our Guests

Dr. Mira John received her medical degree from Tulane University School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed internal medicine residency at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. She is currently a second-year pulmonary and critical fellow at the University of Washington.

Dr. Ylinne Lynch completed her fellowship training at the University of Washington and is currently a Clinical Instructor at the UW. She is a great medical educator and spends her clinical time on the pulmonary consult service as well as in the ICU. 

Learning Points

35. The Future of ARDS Research Roundtable

We are extremely excited for another PulmPEEPs Roundtable table discussion today. We have spent multiple episodes talking about different aspects of ARDS and respiratory failure. Today, multiple expert guests return, as well as a new guest to the show, to discuss the future of ARDS research. This is a can’t miss discussion that is so jam-packed with pearls you’ll have to listen twice!

Meet Our Guests

Carolyn Calfee is a Professor of Medicine and Anesthesia at the University of California, San Francisco. She is a world-renowned ARDS researcher and has authored multiple landmark studies in the field. She previously joined us for a discussion on ARDS precision medicine and phenotypes.

Ewan Goligher is an Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto and University Health Network. He has published many practice-changing papers in ARDS. These have included prospective studies and some fantastic retrospective analyses that have fundamentally shaped our interpretation of trial results.  He previously came on the show discussing lung and diaphragm protection.

Sarina Sahetya is an Assistant Professor of Medicine at Johns Hopkins. She is a funded researcher in ARDS and respiratory physiology and has published multiple studies on lung protection and ARDS. She last helped us understand how to titrate PEEP in ARDS.

Matthew Semler is an Assistant Professor of Medicine and Biomedical Informatics at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, where he is also the Associate MICU Director and the co-director of the Inpatient Division of the Learning Healthcare System at Vanderbilt. Through his role as Chair of the Steering Committee for the Pragmatic Critical Care Research Group, he has helped lead more than two dozen randomized trials leading to multiple high-impact publications.

34. Fellows’ Case Files: The Ohio State University College of Medicine

Welcome back to Pulm PEEPs Fellows’ Case Files series. We are traveling to the midwest to visit The Ohio State University College of Medicine and hear about another great pulmonary case.

Meet Our Guests

Kashi Goyal is a second-year Pulmonary and Critical Care Fellow at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center. She obtained her MD at OSU, and then completed her Internal Medicine residency at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. She worked as a hospitalist and educator before going back to fellowship and remains passionate about medical education.

Lynn Fussner is an Associate Professor of Internal Medicine at OSU and has been there since completing her fellowship and Post-doctorate at Mayo Clinic. In addition to her clinical work in the multidisciplinary vasculitis clinic, she is a translational researcher with a focus on inflammatory pulmonary disorders and vasculitis.

Avi Cooper is an Assistant Professor of Medicine at Ohio State University College of Medicine and the Program Director of the Pulmonary and Critical Care Fellowship. He is an Associate Editor at the Journal of Graduate Medical Education. Last but not least, he co-hosts the Curious Clinician Podcast, one of the most popular medical education podcasts.

Patient Presentation

Key Learning Points

**Spoilers Ahead** If you want to think through the case on your own we advise listening to the episode first before looking at these points.

  • The three most common causes of cough in adults in the USA are cough variant asthma, GERD, and post-nasal drip
  • A post-viral cough can last for 8-12 weeks and still be within normal
  • Sinus symptoms in a chronic cough can just be sinusitis and post-nasal drip, but should consider eosinophilic granulomatosis with polyangiitis (EGPA), aspirin exacerbated respiratory disease (AERD), cystic fibrosis, or ciliary dyskinesia.
  • Examination of a wheeze
    • Fixed sound vs variable
    • Pitch: larger central airways vs lower peripheral airways
    • Is it throughout the cycle or at a certain phase?
    • Ask the patient to cough before listening and ask them to breathe out through their mouth
  • Approach to eosinophilia in a patient with cough and dyspnea
    •  Multi-system involvement vs lungs
      • Multi-system involvement
        • Vasculitis
        • Parasitic infection
        • Hematologic malignancy
        • Medication side effect
        • Primary hypereosinophilic syndromes
      • Within the lungs:
        • Parenchymal disease
          • Loeffler’s syndrome
          • Eosinophilic pneumonia
        • Airway disease
          • Asthma
          • ABPA
  • If you have a high suspicion for airways disease, PFTs should be requested with bronchodilator testing regardless of the degree of obstruction on baseline spirometry
  • Asthma alone should not cause ground glass opacities, so if see these in a patient with asthma we think about:
    • Infection, especially atypical infections
    • EGPA
    • Vasculitis with DAH
    • ABPA
    • Hypogammaglobulinemia or other immunodeficiency
  • EGPA diagnosis
    • ANCA testing is only positive in 60% of patients with EGPA so a negative test doesn’t rule it out by any means
    • It is easiest to make a diagnosis when there is a clear small vessel manifestation
      • Alveolar hemorrhage
      • Mononeuritis multiplex
      • Glomerulonephritis
    • Many patients with asthma, nasal polyposis, and high peripheral eosinophilia have EGPA but don’t have a clear small vessel feature of vasculitis or a positive ANCA
      • These patients typically have eosiniophilia a lot higher than when thinking about allergic phenotype asthma alone. As a rule of thumb, at least an absolute eosinophil count > 1000

References and Further Reading

  1. Carr TF, Zeki AA, Kraft M. Eosinophilic and Noneosinophilic Asthma. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2018;197(1):22-37. doi:10.1164/rccm.201611-2232PP
  2. Cottin V. Eosinophilic Lung Diseases. Clin Chest Med. 2016;37(3):535-556. doi:10.1016/j.ccm.2016.04.015
  3. Grayson PC, Ponte C, Suppiah R, et al. 2022 American College of Rheumatology/European Alliance of Associations for Rheumatology Classification Criteria for Eosinophilic Granulomatosis with Polyangiitis. Ann Rheum Dis. 2022;81(3):309-314. doi:10.1136/annrheumdis-2021-221794
  4. Wechsler ME, Akuthota P, Jayne D, et al. Mepolizumab or Placebo for Eosinophilic Granulomatosis with Polyangiitis. New England Journal of Medicine. 2017;376(20):1921-1932. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa1702079

33. Lung and Diaphragm Protective Ventilation Roundtable

Today the PulmPEEPs are discussing Lung and Diaphragm Protective Ventilation with two experts in the field. We are joined by Dr. Jose Dianti and Dr. Ewan Goligher.

Meet Our Guests

Dr. Jose Dianti is a clinical and research fellow at the University of Toronto and University Health Network. He completed his residency in Critical Care and worked as a critical care attending previously at the Hospital Italiano in Buenos Aires, Argentina. He is particularly interested in ventilator induced lung injury and personalized ventilation strategies. Dr. Ewan Goligher is an Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto and University Health Network, and is a world renowned researcher in the mechanisms of ventilator induced lung and diaphragm injury.

32. VV-ECMO Roundtable

For the first Pulm PEEPs episode of 2023, we are starting off with a bang and a Roundtable discussion about venovenous extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (VV-ECMO). VV-ECMO has been increasing in use in the intensive care unit for patients with severe respiratory failure, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. We are joined by experts in the field, Cara Agerstrand, Eddy Fan, and Nida Qadir, to discuss the basics of how ECMO works, physiologic goals, when to use ECMO for patients with ARDS, and much more. Let us know your thoughts and stay tuned for more great content in 2023.

Meet Our Guests

Cara Agerstrand is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Columbia University Irving Medical Center / NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital, where she is also the Director of the Medical ECMO Program. She is an international renown ECMO expert and is the current Conference Chair for the Extracorporeal Life Support Organization (or ELSO). Finally, she is a lauded educator and has received the American College of Chest Physicians Distinguished Educator Award.

Eddy Fan is an Associate Professor at the University of Toronto, and the University Health Network / Mount Sinai Hospital. He is also the Director of Critical Research and the Medical Director of the Extracorporeal Life Support Program. He has literally 100s of publications about ARDS, ECMO, and critical care, chairs the ELSO Research Committee, and spearheads multiple international collaborative studies.

Nida Qadir is an Associate Professor at the University of California Los Angeles and is an Associate Director of the MICU, as well as the co-director of the Post-ICU Recovery Clinic. Nida is also on the Critical Care Editorial Board for CHEST and is a highly regarded pulmonary and critical care educator.

Key Learning Points

VV- ECMO Basic Components and Core Physiology

Oxygenation Delivery on VV-ECMO

Carbon Dioxide Removal on VV-ECMO

Flows and Line Pressures on VV-ECMO

ECMO for ARDS

  • Should be considered after conventional therapies have failed (including ventilator optimization and proning)
  • Allows for ultra-lung protective ventilation
  • Lung rest means settings that minimize ventilator-induced lung injury
  • EOLIA Trial (see below) shows that ECMO can be delivered safely, and likely has a benefit in severe ARDS, although the magnitude of that benefit remains uncertain. A Bayesian re-analysis showed a high likelihood of benefit even if skeptical of ECMO

ECMO For Bridge to Lung Transplant

  • Allows for patients to maintain gas exchange while awaiting transplant
  • Ideally done with patient extubated
  • Can allow for patients to maintain nutrition and mobility while awaiting transplant

References and Further Reading

  1. Brodie D, Bacchetta M. Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation for ARDS in Adults. N Engl J Med. 2011;365(20):1905-1914. doi:10.1056/NEJMct1103720
  2. Munshi L, Brodie D, Fan E. Extracorporeal Support for Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome in Adults. NEJM Evidence. 2022;1(10):EVIDra2200128. doi:10.1056/EVIDra2200128
  3. Combes A, Hajage D, Capellier G, et al. Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation for Severe Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. New England Journal of Medicine. 2018;378(21):1965-1975. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa1800385
  4. Goligher EC, Tomlinson G, Hajage D, et al. Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation for Severe Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and Posterior Probability of Mortality Benefit in a Post Hoc Bayesian Analysis of a Randomized Clinical Trial. JAMA. 2018;320(21):2251-2259. doi:10.1001/jama.2018.14276
  5. Erdeneochir E, Strunina S. Analysis of blood flow in extracorporeal membrane oxygenation circuit. Published online 2017.
  6. Schmidt M, Pham T, Arcadipane A, et al. Mechanical Ventilation Management during Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation for Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. An International Multicenter Prospective Cohort. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2019;200(8):1002-1012. doi:10.1164/rccm.201806-1094OC
  7. Tonna JE, Abrams D, Brodie D, et al. Management of Adult Patients Supported with Venovenous Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation (VV ECMO): Guideline from the Extracorporeal Life Support Organization (ELSO). ASAIO Journal. 2021;67(6):601-610. doi:10.1097/MAT.0000000000001432
  8. Hayanga JWA, Hayanga HK, Holmes SD, et al. Mechanical ventilation and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation as a bridge to lung transplantation: Closing the gap. J Heart Lung Transplant. 2019;38(10):1104-1111. doi:10.1016/j.healun.2019.06.026

31. Last Night in the ICU

Today we have a Pulm PEEPs special episode! Dave and Kristina chat post-call about their respective nights in the ICU. Hear about clinical reasoning on the fly, some crucial learning points, insights on procedural troubleshooting, and about the value of end-of-life discussions. The post-call brain fog and jokes only add to the learning fun!

References and Further Reading

Stein PD, Yaekoub AY, Matta F, Kleerekoper M. Fat embolism syndrome. Am J Med Sci. 2008 Dec;336(6):472-7. doi: 10.1097/MAJ.0b013e318172f5d2. PMID: 19092320.

Kainoh T, Iriyama H, Komori A, Saitoh D, Naito T, Abe T. Risk Factors of Fat Embolism Syndrome After Trauma: A Nested Case-Control Study With the Use of a Nationwide Trauma Registry in Japan. Chest. 2021 Mar;159(3):1064-1071. doi: 10.1016/j.chest.2020.09.268. Epub 2020 Oct 13. PMID: 33058815.

Lara AR, Schwarz MI. Diffuse alveolar hemorrhage. Chest. 2010 May;137(5):1164-71. doi: 10.1378/chest.08-2084. PMID: 20442117.